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Counter Strike?

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Counter Strike?

Postby Disco on Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:08 pm

I have yet to see a Counter strike 1.6 Event.. And this is quite funny since you guys claim to be a "competetive gaming" lan cafe. I have no clue as to why all the events are being centerd around Source, when that game is not even comparable to 1.6

Source is for noobs and takes no skill, all you need to do is spray and pray, well you dont even need to pray cause your gonna kill him. 1.6 IS the REAL game out of the Counter Strike series. If you guys even heard of Cs pro Mod yet, the what that game is, its basically 1.5/1.6 with source graphics, why they try to make that when source is out? cause the source engine sucks.

Dont get me wrong Source is a good game, but not for competetive play, that is only made for pubbing.

Yea so get a 1.6 event up.
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Postby natural on Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:48 am

Well first of all
Are YOU fucking RETARTED?
Ok, well CS (1.6) is it in the CGS ? no...
There are WAY WAY more tournys for css than as 1.6 , so dont come critesizing "O WELL IM AMAZING AT CS 1.6! NOT SOURCE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NO0BS ! LAWL LAWL " ....
Go somewhere else for 1.6, dont rage over the forums.

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Postby Disco on Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:40 am

Is Source in WCG, ESL or NGL ......no, no and no.. plus havent you noticed that cgs is for noobs, it only gets alot of exposure so thats why its know to alot of people that dont actually know too much about cs and video games.

Honeslty if you dont even have a valid argument, dont talk... Im still suggesting a 1.6 event.
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Postby natural on Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:16 am

WCG (source will prob be introduced)
ESL or NGL (ESL? SEARCHED IT NOTHING CAME UP? ) NGL (THAT SHIT IS IN EUROPE? PLANNING TO GO THERE , AND YES 1.6 IS MORE POPULAR IN EUROPE.. THAN IN NORTH AMERICA)

DITTO to whatever you said to me after...
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Postby ZAPGOD on Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:43 pm

From a business point 1.6 is not a better choice. It might be fun but it’s not a good choice.

To give you an example HALO for the Xbox. I can name 5 - 10 other first person shooters that I feel are better games, including 1.6. But its Microsoft, they have the money to push their crap game and start televised leagues that only have HALO.
1.6 is still popular in Europe and other countries because it can run smoothly on old cheap computers. Most people around the world can't afford to buy a 1000 - 2000 dollar system.
1.6 runs at the local library.

I'm not saying which the better game is; all I'm saying is 1.6 doesn't make business sense. Sponsors are pulling away from it and you have to realize future plans are to have gaming as big as the NFL. Which means you have to stop thinking like a player and think like you’re a person buying a ticket to watch? I understand you feel it’s a better game, but corps look at it as an old game. If everybody keeps playing this game, there is no need to buy the next gen, motherboards, graphic cards, chips, etc. Also better graphics is better for the non gamer to watch. The audience will enjoy it because it looks good.
There’s a little more to it but I think you get the point.

From my point, I haven't seen anybody play 1.6 in months; it just rots out the space on the hard drives. So if there’s a demand for it, we will start a tournament.
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Postby natural on Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:48 am

OH PZ
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Postby Disco on Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:09 am

ZAPGOD wrote:From a business point 1.6 is not a better choice. It might be fun but it’s not a good choice.

To give you an example HALO for the Xbox. I can name 5 - 10 other first person shooters that I feel are better games, including 1.6. But its Microsoft, they have the money to push their crap game and start televised leagues that only have HALO.
1.6 is still popular in Europe and other countries because it can run smoothly on old cheap computers. Most people around the world can't afford to buy a 1000 - 2000 dollar system.
1.6 runs at the local library.

I'm not saying which the better game is; all I'm saying is 1.6 doesn't make business sense. Sponsors are pulling away from it and you have to realize future plans are to have gaming as big as the NFL. Which means you have to stop thinking like a player and think like you’re a person buying a ticket to watch? I understand you feel it’s a better game, but corps look at it as an old game. If everybody keeps playing this game, there is no need to buy the next gen, motherboards, graphic cards, chips, etc. Also better graphics is better for the non gamer to watch. The audience will enjoy it because it looks good.
There’s a little more to it but I think you get the point.

From my point, I haven't seen anybody play 1.6 in months; it just rots out the space on the hard drives. So if there’s a demand for it, we will start a tournament.


I completely agree to what you said. However, no one plays 1.6 at zap because everyone has it at home and their computer can run it just fine, so thats why the more demanding games are played there.

As to being more pleasing to the eye, that is the whole point of CSpromod. They basically came out with 1.6 with source graphics, and that being the whole 1.6 engine with some tweaks. It was suppose to be the cs for competetive gaming, but since its release it hasnt really been so great and there is still a bit of time before it is good to go.

And me playing in Cal for both 1.6 and source, Source just doesnt compare to 1.6, you guys should try playing competeive for both then compare.

Graphics arent everything in the end, Its all about gameplay.
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Postby ZAPGOD on Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:12 am

Disco wrote:
ZAPGOD wrote:From a business point 1.6 is not a better choice. It might be fun but it’s not a good choice.

To give you an example HALO for the Xbox. I can name 5 - 10 other first person shooters that I feel are better games, including 1.6. But its Microsoft, they have the money to push their crap game and start televised leagues that only have HALO.
1.6 is still popular in Europe and other countries because it can run smoothly on old cheap computers. Most people around the world can't afford to buy a 1000 - 2000 dollar system.
1.6 runs at the local library.

I'm not saying which the better game is; all I'm saying is 1.6 doesn't make business sense. Sponsors are pulling away from it and you have to realize future plans are to have gaming as big as the NFL. Which means you have to stop thinking like a player and think like you’re a person buying a ticket to watch? I understand you feel it’s a better game, but corps look at it as an old game. If everybody keeps playing this game, there is no need to buy the next gen, motherboards, graphic cards, chips, etc. Also better graphics is better for the non gamer to watch. The audience will enjoy it because it looks good.
There’s a little more to it but I think you get the point.

From my point, I haven't seen anybody play 1.6 in months; it just rots out the space on the hard drives. So if there’s a demand for it, we will start a tournament.


I completely agree to what you said. However, no one plays 1.6 at zap because everyone has it at home and their computer can run it just fine, so thats why the more demanding games are played there.

As to being more pleasing to the eye, that is the whole point of CSpromod. They basically came out with 1.6 with source graphics, and that being the whole 1.6 engine with some tweaks. It was suppose to be the cs for competetive gaming, but since its release it hasnt really been so great and there is still a bit of time before it is good to go.

And me playing in Cal for both 1.6 and source, Source just doesnt compare to 1.6, you guys should try playing competeive for both then compare.

Graphics arent everything in the end, Its all about gameplay.



For 1 second stop thinking like a gamer. If I send a letter or call a sponsor for a "beta 1.6 pro mod" I would get no response or they hang up the phone. I would be better off asking for Team Fortress 2, a new game with better graphics. And I think that game sucks compared to the classic. Just my opinion. And you’re wrong why no one plays 1.6 at Zaps because they can play it at home. People still play STARCRAFT here, guys come in to play STREET FIGHTER 2 TURBO and SAN ANDREAS. Even WARROCK which is a free game on line and can be played on my cellphone. These games play on any computer. So the reason why most players come to play any game is to LAN that’s it. To play with their friends and others not from their bedroom or basement but in a fun environment.


So if 1.6 is so much harder, bring your team on June 28,08 run through all the teams, and show them .
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Postby ZAPGOD on Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:52 am

Just thought I would post this:

Why is CGS using Counter-Strike: Source and not Counter-Strike 1.6?

The Championship Gaming Series understands that some players would rather that the league use the older 1.6 version of Counter-Strike instead of the more recently-released Counter-Strike: Source. The Championship Gaming Series believes that Counter-Strike: Source has much to offer to the professional gamer, the game enthusiast and the general public, all three of which are important 'audiences' for the league. With the Source engine, Counter-Strike: Source offers the most advanced technology in graphics and physics, as well as updated models, sounds, animations and other elements that can offer a 'well-rounded' experience for everyone playing or watching the game.
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Postby Disco on Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:49 am

i honestly dont really care no more :lol: i installed cs Source and rape at it even more than at 1.6, and with my team being as good as they are at 1.6 we can easily transfer it to source. All i know is either way we are gonna win the tournament if its 1.6 or source. I guess we will have to go another center to win the 1.6 one. :lol:

Yea but as to Source competetive there are still a bit of things in source that would need to be tweaked for it to compare to 1.6, many minor things that many wouldnt notice. One thing is just the noise when jumping. In 1.6 you could stay in a spot and just jump every so often to watch a spot, this time you cant cause you make noise each time you jump.
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i'm a big asshole

Postby jacob on Mon May 12, 2008 6:10 pm

i have a question. why the fuck should source be tweaked more to be like 1.6 if it isn't 1.6? that's the gayest shit i've heard. do u flavour your grape juice so it tastes like pepsi? faggot! please don't waste any more forum space pretending to be smart.

peace

btw disco, prepare to get spanked at the tournament. :wink:
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css vs 1.6

Postby Grilled on Sat May 24, 2008 10:52 pm

I have a theory why people hate on CSS so much. They have shit machines and have been playing 1.6 from the very start. Let me tell you I started around 1.4 and kept playing 1.6 until source came out. When i first tried source it pissed me off. The more i played it the more i thought it was better than 1.6

The truth is that it takes a while for people to get used to the physics of source. yeah getting a head shot isnt the same and takes some getting used to.

Stop being pussies. Stop living in the past. CSS is where its at. you were the same faggots that were complaining when DVD's were being sold instead of video tapes ;)

-Pimpski
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Re: css vs 1.6

Postby p-lo on Sun May 25, 2008 2:13 am

Grilled wrote:I have a theory why people hate on CSS so much. They have shit machines and have been playing 1.6 from the very start. Let me tell you I started around 1.4 and kept playing 1.6 until source came out. When i first tried source it pissed me off. The more i played it the more i thought it was better than 1.6

The truth is that it takes a while for people to get used to the physics of source. yeah getting a head shot isnt the same and takes some getting used to.

Stop being pussies. Stop living in the past. CSS is where its at. you were the same faggots that were complaining when DVD's were being sold instead of video tapes ;)

-Pimpski



you have somewhat my theory in there.

Source is a completely different engine than 1.6
its the same as playing the old BF games and the newest 2142.

get used to it. source is now a part of the biggest gaming franchise in the world, and being part of that community is a pleasure and it does come with its rewards. altho Europe still has a HUGE 1.6 gathering, the CGS has started to influence some players towards it. One thing that Source lacs is the wide variety of LANs compare to 1.6.
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Postby eric on Fri May 30, 2008 4:34 am

You guys sound like douches trying to intellectually break down cs. Shut the fuck up no one cares, CS pro mod is the gayest concept since the M theory. But you wouldn't know the M theory because you're too busy conversing like the genius intellectuals you are about a game that you're not even good at. Fags.
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dot.kronix

Postby jacob on Fri May 30, 2008 4:46 am

dear dot.kronix (or however u spell ur lame ass name)

you're a douchecunt. u redundant faggot. there's already a "." in ur name. why add the "dot"? mb u should change ur name to faggothomo.

(peace)^0.5

because ur gay
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